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Dec 6, 2012 8:00pm EST
what the opposing side is really saying, i think, is chris brown what we really wanted to have and may be too late. they really still want it. they want to have -- [inaudible] that's what everybody really believed in middle eastern studies is that you're going have the model. you're going have enlightened. the author begannism that grew out of the fashionist young turk movement in the late empire. they were going establish and enlighten and create a new liberalism that eventually would democrat democratic in the middle east. and that you would take the faithful and take and more or less cast them off and replace them. and at the end of the long process muslims would be basically us. well, you know,let look at turkey. that hasn't exactly turned out so well. .. or their successors will be there. we know that's the most liberal model. in the arab world, where we hope that kemal is somewhat come out, they should dictatorship, the kings who relay command at the end of that process is still also still not even get close to that. but have been in the arab world is dictatorship produced societ
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